Today I think that our real reality is fragmented.

Interviewee: Neala Schleuning

Now, to come around to your question. Today I think that our real reality is fragmented, because not everybody sees themselves as workers. So there is a certain bunch of people, for example, who respond to labour movements, because they are working in labour organizing and they tend to respond to those kinds of images, there are people who are in the environmental movement, that’s their primary political point of connecting with imaginary, so you have that body of work. We have many different realities that are essentially not prescribed. Everyone is experimenting with how to do this. But they all are trying to connect with what’s really going on in people’s lives and not just the economic. There is all this feminist art and feminist imaginary, all this African-American art and African-American imaginary, etc. I see a lot of images from around the world of different countries, because people are also portraying real issues, political issues, where socialist realism was kind of focusing on this big communist picture so it was very restricted, but they are still all using realism. Representation of itself is not creating change, but I think one of the benefits particularly in social media networks is that we see political imaginary right now. We are not seeing it on television. I am a great believer in decentralization, I think I picked this up decades ago from studying anarchism. But decentralization in this day and age quickly becomes fragmentation. How do we bring it back together and what is the big picture?